AndAppStore (http://appslib.com/press/index.html)
If I read correctly :
- AndAppStore and Archos discussed about a solution to managed a
database for an application market
- Archos decided to not work with Funky android for different reasons
that I don't know
- Archos based its appslib using a free format database (the format is
not the property of Funky Android)
- Archos uses links from others website in its database.dat ; where is
the problem ? If these different websites, don't request to Archos to
stop this using, why are you against this solution ? The external link
is clearly identified in the appslib.
Now, i don't know why I don't post my apps...
When neX.software talks about "whole pirated apps", I think we can't
talk of pirated apps...
So now, what do you think about appslib ?
Thanks for your feedbacks.
Arnaud
On 22 oct, 22:22, "nEx.Software" <email.nex.softw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sounds very shady... Somewhat reminiscent of the whole pirated apps
> thing on the Archos forum.
>
> On Oct 22, 1:17 pm, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote:
>
> > By hotlinking Tim means using a download URL from another application
> > directory in their own listings, so when a user uses the AppsLib
> > client and goes to download an app the download may actually come from
> > another sites servers.
>
> > AppsLib have some apps hotlinked to AndAppStore (without agreement),
> > and the way they've done it refers to specific versions of
> > applications which means there is no guarantee that the download will
> > be available to users when they click on them (because a developer may
> > have removed that version from public use at AndAppStore), and even if
> > the developer updates the app at AndAppStore any users using AppsLib
> > won't see the updates because of the way Diotasoft/Archos have done
> > things.
>
> > They also link out to SlideME without any agreement, and to GetJar. If
> > you want to see it for yourself you can download their releases file
> > fromhttp://files.appslib.com/db/Releases.dat, open it up in a file
> > editor, and search for andappstore , slideme, or getjar.
>
> > Al.
>
> > On Oct 22, 9:07 pm, strazzere <str...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > In addition to what Al has said, it's been interesting to see that
> > > many, MANY applications as essentially hotlinked to other sites for
> > > downloading. Very few of the applications posted appear to be actually
> > > hosted on appslib servers.
>
> > > This to me is a concern for a few reasons. Has permission been grated
> > > for this to happen? How does this protect me against bad updates/or
> > > even get me updates? Is that why I can't access have the applications,
> > > and did that author even submit it comes into question...
>
> > > -Tim
>
> > > On Oct 22, 3:03 pm, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Here is our account of what happened between us at AndAppStore and
> > > > Archos;
>
> > > > We worked with Archos for several weeks helping them design and
> > > > develop AppsLib, this included me personally travelling to Archoses
> > > > head office in Paris for meetings with Henri Crohas (Founder and CEO
> > > > of Archos), and other members of their senior management, as well as
> > > > various email and information exchanges. The relationship was such
> > > > that at one point I personally was in possession of a pre-release
> > > > Android Archos 5 for a few weeks before it was officially launched.
>
> > > > Very early on in the development a mutual NDA was signed after which
> > > > AndAppStore, at Archoses request, supplied proprietary information
> > > > about AndAppStores' client/server data exchange mechanisms, system
> > > > architecture, and provided a version of the AndAppStore client with a
> > > > customised user interface designed to work on the WVGA display of the
> > > > Archos 5. All of the information supplied to them was given in order
> > > > to allow them to develop their server to ensure it was compatible with
> > > > the customised AndAppStore client which we were told would be used as
> > > > the AppsLib client.
>
> > > > During our work with them we agreed the terms of an ongoing
> > > > relationship which would cover the cost of the consulting and
> > > > development work, and although the original deal was modified a few
> > > > times (by mutual agreement), a contract was drawn up by Archos which
> > > > we signed and returned it to them for countersigning. Archos then
> > > > refused to countersign their own contract, and thus the relationship
> > > > ended.
>
> > > > When AppsLib was released it came to light that Archos had asked a
> > > > third party, Diotasoft, to develop an almost functionally identical
> > > > client for them and that AppsLib used the same system architecture and
> > > > data exchange methods as AndAppStore, the details of which had been
> > > > supplied to Archos under the mutual NDA at a time when we were being
> > > > told we would be compensated via the terms of the ongoing relationship
> > > > which had since ended.
>
> > > > The extent of the use was that the Diotasoft/Archos AppsLib used
> > > > exactly file formats, data set names, relationships between data sets,
> > > > and methods of accessing the data as used in AndAppStore, and the
> > > > AndAppStore client could read, parse, and populate its' internal
> > > > database with data from AppsLib without modification.
>
> > > > The current situation is this; As of today we have received no payment
> > > > of any kind for the work we did, and the only invoice we have
> > > > submitted is now overdue and has not been paid, and so we are seeking
> > > > legal advice as to what options are open to us in relation to the
> > > > information must have redistributed to Diotasoft in order to allow
> > > > them to develop a client to our specifications and their development
> > > > of an almost identical client. With all this in mind we are also
> > > > examining the financial stability of Archos to determine whether or
> > > > not Archos would be able to pay any award made to us by the time any
> > > > legal action would be completed.
>
> > > > Hopefully you're all now able to make your decisions a little easier
> > > > as opposed to having to guess whats' going on.
>
> > > > Al.
> > > > --
>
> > > > * Looking for Android Apps? - Tryhttp://andappstore.com/*
>
> > > > ======
> > > > Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the
> > > > company number 6741909.
>
> > > > The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
> > > > necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's
> > > > subsidiaries.
>
> > > > On Oct 22, 5:57 pm, Streets Of Boston <flyingdutc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > There could be plenty of reason's 'why'. Costs less, faster to market,
> > > > > etc.
> > > > > I hope, too, that all this is just a mis-understanding. But
> > > > > AndAppStore states that it has some good proof that parts of their
> > > > > software have been 'used' by Archos for the Archos Market.
>
> > > > > On Oct 22, 4:52 am, arnouf <arnaud.far...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > I'm not an Archos employee !
> > > > > > I think that this story is a little bit strange, because I don't think
> > > > > > that Archos did something like that if they want have a good place on
> > > > > > the android place...
>
> > > > > > Now, I can't confirm if Archos or AndAppStore are right but I don't
> > > > > > think why Archos should stole codes...
>
> > > > > > On 21 oct, 16:11, Streets Of Boston <flyingdutc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Same here.
> > > > > > > If they indeed did that, then i won't put my app there.
>
> > > > > > > On Oct 20, 1:25 pm, niko20 <nikolatesl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Hi,
>
> > > > > > > > Maybe I will wait until I find out if you really stole the code for
> > > > > > > > your app store from the andAppStore developers. At least that is the
> > > > > > > > current allegation.
>
> > > > > > > > -niko
>
> > > > > > > > On Oct 20, 3:55 am, arnouf <arnaud.far...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > If you have developed or if you are developing applications, and they
> > > > > > > > > are on the Android Market - Great! - But these apps are only
> > > > > > > > > available for devices that have contracts with Google.
>
> > > > > > > > > Archos, a major PMP manufacturer, launched its first device on 25th of
> > > > > > > > > September: the Archos 5 IT. Archos has a real community of fans who
> > > > > > > > > are waiting for applications for their devices. This device is the
> > > > > > > > > first of a long product line (the first Archos phone should be
> > > > > > > > > available soon too!).
>
> > > > > > > > > It's a new opportunity for your applications to find new fans!
>
> > > > > > > > > You can post your apps, for free, on the Archos Market called Appslib
> > > > > > > > > (http://www.appslib.com).
>
> > > > > > > > > Today, only free applications are available for distribution on
> > > > > > > > > AppsLib, but Archos promises the possibility to distribute your paid
> > > > > > > > > apps soon !
>
> > > > > > > > > Don't wait : more applications, more users, more fans...and more
> > > > > > > > > revenue (soon)!
>
> > > > > > > > > Arnaud- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > > - Show quoted text -
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